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Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   9/27/06
Message :   Adventures in successful house moving. http://www.experthousemovers.com/ http://www.theviewnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=7267&paper=1&cat=193 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9503E0D81F38F931A25750C0A9669C8B63&sec=&pagewanted=print

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   9/27/06
Message :   HOUSE ON BARGE... check this out: http://www.observernews.net/artman/publish/article_001758.shtml

Name :   The car protest
Location :   how it started
Date :   in the first place...
Message :   www.geocities.com/auroracoalition/jay.html

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   9/25/06
Message :   Funny thing is, Jay OHearn posts thought-provoking notes and letters on his car. The imbeciles defacing it, however, leave only childish crap.

Name :   Auroran
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Jay: You could call the police if you like, esp. if it keeps up. And soon youll have witnesses too, since others will now be watching for you. Hey, you know theyd do it to you if the tables were turned....

Name :   coalition supporter
Location :   aurora
Date :   9/23/06
Message :   Hey, Jay: re your request on feedback forum -- absolutely! Ill take off the added signs. Would change your oil too if I could. The nerve of these arrogant jerks! You are way too polite. Tell us: who was defacing your protest car?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Does Jacci Farrlow live outside the village limits or is it the outer limits..I had to sit in my car while she stopped in the middle of RT 90 to take pictures of geese last year.Selfish and illegal. Pleasants dream child

Name :   OMG
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   How could I forget that! You are so right.

Name :   not a dream
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   I remember it on Randy Zs door but one weekend - last sping? - there were big signs to that effect all over farlows honda when it wasnt parked at the inn she was riding around village honking waving screaming at people about her hero

Name :   from what I remember
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   It was not Jaccis thing. The sign was seen at Randi Zabriskies shop Jane Morgans Little House. When it was in the little house. Not sure if she still has it up at the Woods House.

Name :   dreamer
Location :   down the street
Date :   9/21/06
Message :   Wish someone would put farlows big signs up on the 3 rotting houses - Pleasant Is Our Hero, Thank You Pleasant, See All the Good Pleasant has Done for Us! Would answer some of the tourist questions maybe

Name :   Gee
Location :   all those questions
Date :   about
Message :   Webb House and not one of them asks WHERE is Pleasant Rowland in all this?? She has ignored an order to remedy and left 3 houses to fall apart for 3 years. Oh, yeah, some HERO !

Name :   fyi
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Collected questions about new plan for Webb House relocation up at: http://aurorany.org/update.Webb-and-Lyon.html

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   9/17/06
Message :   Attention: PO advertising now for new location giving only a few days to respond. Notice and interesting questions here: www.aurorany.org/USPSmove.html

Name :   resident
Location :   aurora
Date :   sept 17
Message :   Boards issued order then refused to enforce it whem owner ignored them. Anyone else ignoring an order to remedy would be subject to fine & jail. Thats the law = which must be applied uniformly = basis for a law suit = capriciousness.

Name :   Order To Remedy on Webb House
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   My guess. All the boards want to save Webb house. Or the order would have been taken care of. Coming up on 3 years.

Name :   Qs
Location :   aurora
Date :   Sept 15
Message :   Is ZBA suit only way? What about suit against Code Officer or Village Board or somebody for not enforcing their own Order To Remedy on Webb House? PS - What happened at Wednesdays Planning Board meeting???

Name :   Aunt Lou
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Happy land not a proper description of Aurora or Pleasants bloomers

Name :   Anti George and no
Location :   wireless internet
Date :   schemes
Message :   The only way to stop Webb house is bring suit against ZBA. Variance relief requires higher degree of proof. Cant see how increasing height of building is worthy of relief from board especially if they do not own lake frontage

Name :   Citizen
Location :   editorial page
Date :   Wed. 9/13/06
Message :   www.auburnpub.com/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/

Name :   Heads Up?
Location :   Planning Board Meeting
Date :   Tomorrow, 9/13
Message :   Heard that presentation of final site plans for Webb House relocation are on the agenda. But plans will need to be presented at an announced public hearing, yes? Also, thought CJ said she had to demo Lake House before plans could be finalized. Confusing..

Name :   Laura Holland
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Koepps purchase offers with Wells & the LLC are a matter of public record & on file in the public clerks office, because LLC lawyers included them in affadivit in response to lawsuit. Read them yourself. The details are all there.

Name :   park sign
Location :   click the link
Date :   
Message :   http://www.auroranewyork.us/News%26Notes.html

Name :   //////////
Location :   ?????????????
Date :   
Message :   While the park sign is completed, its base is not..sign is at the firehouse....nice looking, too.

Name :   Qs
Location :   village park
Date :   
Message :   Wheres new sign for old park? Supposed to have been dedicated 9/3 at picnic. Not there now. Stollen already? Did PTR object? Anyone know? And doesnt GFs essay in Citizen violate mayors directive against VB members writing the newspapers?

Name :   GF paves the way
Location :   to disaster
Date :   as soon as possible.
Message :   Three articles in 3 months on plan for us to pay to put new internet services in control of unwilling, unprepared, unqualified or even untrustworthy local government. Tell Village Board, Aurora, the Citizen, and GF -- Enough!

Name :   Nothing
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   is guaranteed.

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Would be close enough to be guaranteed an unobstructed Lake View anyway. Just dont expect me to know why Wells does anything.

Name :   coalition supporter
Location :   aurora
Date :   9/9/06
Message :   Feedback Forum guide states *Comments may be edited for length, content or clarity.* Stands to reason, SIA: dont submit if you object to possibility of being edited. Same as writing to a newspaper.

Name :   But
Location :   it WOULD NOT be on the lake.
Date :   
Message :   The Hollands own the lakefront to the west of the proposed site. And, if a large residence in the middle of town on the lake could be worth a mint why have Wells and Rowland let Lyon House rot? (Though, it has no lakefront, either.)

Name :   How much could this
Location :   property be worth if project
Date :   is actually completed?
Message :   If PTR turns Aurora into Hoffman East, or some American Girls Themepark, then a large residence in the middle of town on the lake could be worth a mint.

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Dont know if someone else ghostwrote GFs bit in the Citizen, but when Ann Rollo started writing Lisa Ryersons speeches you could tell the difference right away.

Name :   Todays Citizen
Location :   Georgies Latest
Date :   9-7-06
Message :   Ugh!!! And I seriously doubt he wrote it. Read this latest linked below and compare it to his other pieces, archived at link here. So... who is he fronting for? And what position will they him get elected to next? www.aurorany.org/Farenthold.html

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Georgie is at it again. http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/09/07/news/opinion/on_the_spot/onthespot01.txt

Name :   so sick of this crap
Location :   
Date :   9-7
Message :   Maybe Wells is going to underwrite the mortage. Or maybe even PTR.

Name :   So, wait...
Location :   (the money pit)
Date :   
Message :   She has to spend 100K to buy Lake&Webb Houses, but still has to demo one and move other (75K more?) and re-route an underground stream (mega-bucks) and rehab a house empty for years? What mortage lender could find the final result worth this investment?

Name :   Nearby
Location :   
Date :   9/7/06
Message :   Right, I forgot, thanks. Prof Linda Lohn was going to sell Lyon House to Prof CJ Koepp, but then Wells exercised its *buy back* clause and bought it for 185K with no announced plans for its use - then let it rot.

Name :   More on
Location :   forum
Date :   
Message :   Lowen was selling to Koop until college bought Lyon back at last minute at Pleasants demand. And then let the house rot.

Name :   Nearby
Location :   Looking at Lake House
Date :   9/6/06
Message :   I heard Lake House was offered to CJ for 25,000 bucks. (And for some reason, if you type a dollor sign in this book it erases the numbers afterwards, just like the apostrophes never show up.) What do you mean, stealing Lyon House?

Name :   ,000
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   For the Lake House apts. Why such a good deal? Does Wells feel guilty for stealing Lyon House out from under Koop & Plaice at the last minute?

Name :   Is it true that
Location :   Wells College is selling
Date :   the Lake House property
Message :   for only ,000 ? I know people who would pay 4 times that - what gives???

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   9/5/06
Message :   To the admin: I also asked because on several occasions my postings have been edited w/o my input/permission. FFR, Whats the word/space limit on postings then?

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Ithaca, at the moment
Date :   Tue
Message :   Deadwood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadwood_%28TV_series%29

Name :   Found the characters
Location :   in a place called Deadwood
Date :   Say what?
Message :   Never heard of it, but Hearst, Tolliver, Pinkerton and Aunt Lou are all in something called Deadwood. Looks like a western?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   Labor Day
Message :   Are these TV/Movie characters in list? Shop opened; no interest. Lake House still stands. CJ must pay 70K for WebbHouse, plus pay 50K penalty if she doesnt move it to LakeHouse site in 6 months! What bank will mortage that? Crazy! Dont know about picnic.

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Rowland=hearst; Turner= katie W;Cy Tolliver= George F; Pinkerton= George Peters; Lisa= Aunt lou;commissioner Jarry= Mayor G; EB = Ann Rollo;Richardson = Jacci Farlow; aurora village=comatose steve; We need al swearengen

Name :   A Friend
Location :   Ithaca
Date :   September 3, 2006
Message :   So, how was the picnic? Did Jim Orman get rained out? Has the new shop opened yet?

  
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Name :   Q
Location :   from the village
Date :   Sept 3
Message :   Did CJ get her demo permit? I thought she was ready to roll.

Name :   Nothing
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   makes any sense. Friday night, on a long weekend, and the pizza shop is closed.

Name :   Administrators
Location :   cyberspace
Date :   now
Message :   SIA: exchange taken down at request of founding member (without whom venue wouldnt exist). Responses left up a few days so all could read defenses after our stupid mistake in passing on personal attack. But replies led to more attacks. Let it go; thanks.

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main St.
Date :   9/1/06
Message :   According to Aurora zoning code: no gas station - convenience store permitted in Flood Hazard, Residential, Commercial, or Institutional zones; but allowed by Special Use Permit in Agricultural/Residential zone.

Name :   Latecomer of some 25+ years
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Friday
Message :   Dont know if info is correct but have been told by more than 1 person that zoning in Aurora doesnt allow gasstation/convenience store. Heard grumbles against gasstation from locals @ PTRs pretakeover focus groups.

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   9/1/06
Message :   Not aware of a ban. Think there was a proposal to put one on south corner of Poplar Ridge Rd, next to gully & in flood plain where buried gas tanks not permitted. Aesthetics concerned some but did not sink proposal as far as I know...?

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/31/06
Message :   To the webmaster or whomever is in charge of the forum: Could you please tell me why my post and a few others, answering Anon, have been deleted?

Name :   Latecomer of some 25+ years
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Thursday
Message :   I always thought the ban on gas station/convenience stores was that they were tacky & commercial & would spoil the aesthetics of the village. Since Pleasantization, perhaps that is now moot.

Name :   alumna
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Is the village so threatened by competition from a good convenience store? Does life end at 9pm?

Name :   Auroran
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/30/06
Message :   Now come on... maybe 2 gas stations in a village this size is a bit much, but you cant tell me thered be a lack of business for a station in or close to Aurora.

Name :   alumna
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Try a main road within walking distance from the campus -- not all kids have cars.

Name :   New Aurora
Location :   Reality
Date :   Today
Message :   Sure, even though last 2 gas stations (Sherwood Corner & Pumpkin Hill) had to close for lack of business, & last proposal for one was illegal (in flood plain) and no other business property is available, but gee-whiz thanks so much for your advice!

Name :   Good old Aurora
Location :   Doomed to the 30s
Date :   Zone it for chains
Message :   If the owners wont stay open, let a decent convenience store/24 hr gas station in!

Name :   resident
Location :   aurora
Date :   august 28
Message :   TG better be held to his word and the law this time, he is recorded in official approved minutes: PO demo only if USPS moves into Heary. http://www.auroranewyork.us/December292005.html

Name :   Have noticed before how
Location :   Tom G has never behaved
Date :   as if rules applied to him
Message :   & gets irritable if anyone reminds him of legal decisions, laws, regulations, etc which stand in the way of his doing just as he pleases. PO is case in point.

Name :   An Auroran
Location :   Aurora, of course
Date :   8/28/06
Message :   No, really, the Pizzaurora thing has gone beyond silly into nutty territory. Th-Sun 4-9? In a college town? Honestly, whos responsible?

Name :   Not really an answer
Location :   but interesting.
Date :   8/28/06
Message :   It seems Tom G now says our PO will be demolished no matter what, even though all approvals were voted on condition that PO must move to Heary. USPS can keep lease until 2009, force us to supply new roof -- which Tom will then destroy? Duh?

Name :   Here is a Q:
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/27
Message :   Why spend $$ on Village roads when our Village P.O. needed a new roof??? Would not have cost as much as the roads that were not that bad. even to just patch the fews spots now on Cherry Ave. now.

Name :   resident
Location :   aurora
Date :   august 27
Message :   IF her work here is done, why are we facing demo of our PO against all sense & reason and why are Lake Lyon Webb Houses held hostage to her iron will? Why the lies, why the scam about college taking over businesses, what is this all a front for???

Name :   Full article available now
Location :   New York Times
Date :   8-27-06
Message :   Link too long to post here -- find it at the bottom of www.AuroraNy.org/Happyland -- also an interesting blurb in todays Citizen www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/08/25/news/local_news/news06.txt

Name :   Not as dumb
Location :   about marketing
Date :   as they are
Message :   Pizza shop run by people who know zip about their market: college students only just start thinking about ordering pizza around 10PM Its about same as Dories is for kids - yeah right.

Name :   augh!!!
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   MY WORK HERE IS COMPLETED????? well leave then! go go go! GO!

Name :   what kind of
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   retail environment exists in Aurora if a pizza shop in a college town is only 20 hrs a week? Sounds like a front for the mob.

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   8.25.06
Message :   More informative excerpts from NYT review up at www.aurorany.org/Happyland.html

Name :   Yes, it is true!
Location :   in the New York Times
Date :   8/25/06
Message :   Happyland: Mystery of Missing Novel, full page 8/27 in NYT BookReview. Ha! Amazing pr for bad writer? And no threat from Rowland? So why did publishers lawyers get involved? A *mystery* for sure! www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=95989&ntpid=0

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   I thought pleasant gave jims wife - rest her soul - way over-priced (50,000 bucks?) buy-out of failing bird business. No-one else in heary bldg got bought out, but jim was on planning board so maybe his vote was needed? So what was deal with fargo?

Name :   Now
Location :   fargo confused
Date :   
Message :   I thougth owner orman only got a little bit of money from wells and pleasant, take it or leave it, didnt he? How much did he get?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   yea, really garish lurid prose in happyland seems atypical but maybe somehow suited to the subject? hey, his other books mailman & funnies are under option to movie studios. i wanna see kathy bates play happy masters!

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main St
Date :   24 August
Message :   Ive read his other works, Funnies & Mailman: better but different in style from each other and from Happyland which got cut down, rewritten w/ eye on lawyers, & serialized. Will reserve judgement for the full version in paperback, if & when that happens.

Name :   watcher
Location :   
Date :   8.24
Message :   Is the orman thing to make him feel better for what he did to the village. Most know he got a sweet deal from Pleasant. Now he is still working over the locals.

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/24/06
Message :   The Pizzaurora hours are just goofy. Who makes these decisions? This village is like a bad joke at times.

Name :   Auroran
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/24/06
Message :   Gotta agree about Lennons writing. I love that the thing is out there, that somebodys lampooning PR. But the guy cant write. (Yet he teaches writing. But thats par for the course).

Name :   Use Our Park
Location :   in the village
Date :   on Sunday, Sept 3
Message :   -- a community picnic, 1-4PM, hot dogs burgers beer & soda for 10bucks a head, sponsored by Jim Orman (?!), more info here -- http://www.auroranewyork.us/Future%20Dates.html

Name :   Mystery solved!
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Lennons writing sux. No wonder pub backed out.

Name :   hungry
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   If the pizza shop cant make it, how can the place across the street that isnt open yet?

Name :   guest
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   and you better have your order in by 8:35 because they lock up tight at 9. No late pizzas!

Name :   Pizzaurora
Location :   sign on door says:
Date :   New Fall Hours
Message :   Thursday thru Sunday 4-9. In a college town they cant sell more pizza than that???

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main Street
Date :   22 August 2006
Message :   I was just told that the Sunday (27 August) New York Times Book Review will carry a full page article on Happyland: The Mystery of the Missing Novel. Can this be true?

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Thanks for the info, Nancy. That sounds promising. Best of luck to you.

Name :   Nancy
Location :   BTF
Date :   8/21/06
Message :   I plan to open within two weeks. I will be open year-round. I am the sole owner of the business.

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/20/06
Message :   Nancy, you might want to ask the administrators to remove your email address quick before it gets picked up by spam robots. And - when do you open, will you be year round, and are you the business owner? Thanks!

Name :   Nancy Tisch
Location :   Ithaca, NY
Date :   August 20, 2006
Message :   Seems you all have some questions about my store opening up. Rather than swap conjecture among yourselves-- you could just e-mail me at ntisch@twcny.rr.com. Id be more than willing to clear up any questions you have. I look forward to seeing you in the st

Name :   A Question
Location :   down the street
Date :   Sunday, August 20
Message :   Is completion bond required by village for Webb House relocation? No? Then what happens if CJ runs out of cash, changes mind, or is hit by a truck when project is half done? Mess could go from bad to worse.

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/18/06
Message :   To CPH: Why dont you READ this site before making judgements like that? Shes not a giving woman. And issues, CPH, are always more complex than the simple-minded think.

Name :   CPH
Location :   WNY
Date :   18 Aug 06
Message :   Everybody always hates the gut with the big house on the block! Lotta sour grapes it sounds about a giving woman.

Name :   
Location :   Auburn Citizen
Date :   August 17, 2006
Message :   Aurora May Go Wireless http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/08/17/news/local_news/news02.txt Plus update about Webb - Lyon - Lake Houses

Name :   Try Again
Location :   Ithaca Journal
Date :   Todays Story
Message :   http://www.ithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/NEWS01/608170347/1002

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Yup & now shes g0ing to donate (for a big tax deduction) another sinking business to the college. Just what Wells needs - another way to lose big money. And dining hall food in the village - what a deal! Check the web at www.aurorany.org

Name :   coalition supporter
Location :   aurora
Date :   Today I saw someone
Message :   painting Fargo porch. Business now owned by Wells, but with need to address major deferred maintenance on campus, Wells touches up newly rebuilt Fargo? And college is paying to treat all those new trees? Dont think so. It is still a Pleasant operation.

  
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Name :   x
Location :   x
Date :   x
Message :   http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=94479&ntpid=4

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Hey: how about Democracy For Aurora? (What a hypocritical booby!)

Name :   A Friend
Location :   Ithaca
Date :   August 14
Message :   Geo Farentholds really tiny *Democracy for America* group meets monthly at Fargo, had Spitzer Fundraiser there in August, see http://dfa.meetup.com/516/?gj=sj3 AND http://www.party2win.com/Spitzer2006/parties/index.cfm?e=GeosFirstFridayFishFry

Name :   aurora
Location :   ny
Date :   8/14/06
Message :   was there a political event at the Fargo recently endorsing Elliot Spitzer?

Name :   keep an eye here
Location :   bet the
Date :   
Message :   http://www.abc.state.ny.us/ http://www.abc.state.ny.us/JSP/query/PublicQueryInstructPage.jsp

Name :   coalition supporter
Location :   still here
Date :   8/14/06
Message :   would be interesting to know what name is on Bet The Farm applications for licenses to serve food / wine: Tish or Rowland or Waller or Wells College...?

Name :   
Location :   Bet The Farm
Date :   
Message :   Nancy Tisch worked at French for Pleasant

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/13/06
Message :   Was told a Nancy Tisch would open Bet The Farm. Anyone heard of her? Also that she could not open because permits not in place to taste&sell wine. And heard monthly rental for old Posies shop is 900 bucks a month! Who can clear that overhead in Aurora?

Name :   Wondering
Location :   End of summer
Date :   
Message :   I bet the farm that Bet The Farm never opens. What is the point? Summer is almost over. The tourists will be gone. Is it a front to make it look like something is going to happen, like Aurora is lively!!? Better than *Store For Rent*?

Name :   sez it all
Location :   latest issue of harpers
Date :   august something
Message :   another chapter title in the latest installment, a summation of the transformation of a village -- Horrendous Happycrap.

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main St
Date :   10 Aug 06
Message :   Unrelated developments. Last night PB announced that D.Kirk has withdrawn his purchase offer for Lyon House. Today Happyland Part III arrived with a chapter called - The screams of local preservationists. On it goes...

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/9/06
Message :   Not sure what PR would sue Lennon for... a libel suit wouldnt wash (pardon the pun). It would only make her look bad. And a writer would enjoy the publicity. Trust me.

Name :   in a lawsuit ptr could
Location :   use OUR published
Date :   public perspectives here
Message :   as evidence of damages to her reputation. therefore enjoy the parallels privately but dont insist upon them in public forums monitored by her agents.

Name :   Dont Worry:
Location :   Harpers understands
Date :   1st ammendment protections.
Message :   And Norton may have panicked for different reason: her husbands big powerful family business is in textbook printing.

Name :   when wishing for PTR
Location :   to be stung by Happyland
Date :   have a care
Message :   whod want the author who gave you the revenge of a stinging lampoon to suffer from being sued by the BIG BULLY (suffer he would) and/or have publishers pull out even more? have a care.

Name :   
Location :   nearby
Date :   8-8-06
Message :   the author is also very wrong about the book not bothering PTR. more on forum...

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Aurora
Date :   7 Aug 2006
Message :   Happyland description of Happy Masters stepping from car, standing on sidewalk surveying all is EXACTLY the way PTR stands;cant tell me he hasnt ever seen her in person. But dont want trouble 4 him either.

Name :   I dont believe
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   that R John Lennon is being truthful. His book IS about peope in Aurora. too easy to recognize. Is he worried about a law suit? From who?

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main St.
Date :   5 Aug 06
Message :   This map copy was a FOIL request to Village Clerk back in 2001, its part of LLCs file for Inn/Market proposal. Do tax maps show ROWs? Those used to be available on line. Or, maybe they can be viewed in Village, Town, or County Clerks Offices?

Name :   Aurora
Location :   Aurora Area
Date :   
Message :   Can you post the Map? Or give info on where to find that info? KAH. thanks much

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main St.
Date :   4 August 06
Message :   Much newer survey map made for Aurora Foundation LLC, dated 1/8/01, still shows Thompson Lane just north of bank as a Right of Way also labeled *unopened street* extending from Rte 90 to lake shore. Interesting.

Name :   Surrpised
Location :   to learn
Date :   
Message :   Does that map mean we can all access the lake via Biaconis driveway and back yard? What became of that ROW? Does it still exist?

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8/4/06
Message :   I sent some notes on concerns with Right of Way issues to the feedback Forum.

Name :   Ruth Spinks
Location :   Equinox NY
Date :   
Message :   Interview with the author of Happyland in yesterdays Ithaca Times. Hey, it quotes this GuestBook! http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16997154&BRD=1395&PAG=461&dept_id=216620&rfi=6

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   The point being. No 1 really knows where ALL the ROWs in the village R. I am also sure the powers are really hiding most. Let them show the village where they R. The one by the bank is real look at the curb cut. But still hidden. a trade for ROW#2 RR one

Name :   Resident
Location :   still here
Date :   August 3. 2006
Message :   Already knew of its existence as well as its name; no surprise there. Note that unlike the Rowland land-grab, other village rights of way --there are several-- are not blocked or built upon, nor is use prohibited to public. What IS your point?

Name :   2 Long Gone
Location :   one more try
Date :   
Message :   I am sure you did not see the 3rd ROW just north of the bank. Sure Pat would not be happy if Aurora puts a sideway down that one or blacktops it. look at it again! Thompson Lane

Name :   Resident
Location :   right here
Date :   August 2, 2006
Message :   Theres a Right of Way south of old IGA -- a road once extending to stone mill on shore -- that Rowland built on top of, plus the R.O.W. to north of Inn that she now bans for public use. Long Gone: more than your knickers are twisted!

Name :   Maria S.
Location :   Syracuse
Date :   August 2, 2006
Message :   I do hope Bob Congel and Pleasant havent been introduced -- to think of those two weeping into their G & Ts at the lodge! [shutter]

Name :   Long Gone
Location :   Anywhere but here
Date :   8-2-06
Message :   Site map: I see rights of way for a railroad that no longer exits. I see property owned by Wells College. I dont see anything you need to get your knickers in a twist about.

Name :   Map reader
Location :   The Inn etc.
Date :   8-2-06
Message :   Well... we know village board let Rowland steal two public rights of way, building over one and just taking another. Do you see something else in this link?

Name :   well well welll
Location :   The Inn etc.
Date :   
Message :   What do you think? http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~springport/caycomaps/3-2-69.jpg

Name :   dissident
Location :   happyland article a week ago
Date :   7-31-06
Message :   How come planning boards James Stephen Taylor (aka steve) speaks to press re rowland when mayor wants ALL board members mum on public issues? Maybe he should tape his mouth shut... www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/07/24/news/latest_news/latestnews02.txt

Name :   
Location :   rt.90
Date :   Sunday morning
Message :   Anyone know what ever happened to the Pedestrian in Crosswalk signs the village use to put up in the summer? Sure could have used them for the Rt. 90 sale.

Name :   Karin W
Location :   In a Thunderstorm now passing
Date :   Evening
Message :   Good point, Taxpayer. Makes me feel better too. To sum up: wireless in Aurora is fraught w/potential trouble, not all of which I covered, with or w/o email. As usual, sounds good, but danger lurks....

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   re: wireless village proposal
Date :   7/25/06
Message :   By the time we learn what George has in mind, he has already done it. Remember the lesson of the official village website. Good to start questioning before he gets too far. Neither an attack nor a waste of time: just advance notice & wary watchfulness.

Name :   Maria S.
Location :   Syracuse
Date :   July 25, 2006
Message :   [more] ... Who hangs around and tells the august heads how to spend their alum donation? This was a devils bagain from the beginning.

Name :   Maria S.
Location :   Syracuse
Date :   July 25, 2006
Message :   Its difficult to read of the problems in Aurora without a sense of sadness and loss. Alums who do well and give a healthy contribution usually expect little more than a pat on the head and a new building bearing their name. Who would hang around to tell t

Name :   Karin W
Location :   After consulting with
Date :   a more expert expert
Message :   Lot of IFs: could just be wireless access w/o email services, but there are still issues. Will want to hear just what pie-in-the-sky George has in mind before wasting energy attacking straw man.

Name :   Concerned local
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Tuesday
Message :   Question: Is Ken Larson (Wells Manager of Computer & Network Operations) back from vacation or are they (purposely?) meeting in his absence yet again?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   So.. looking at wireless internet in village run by LLC partner, Wells? Not good idea. See security concerns on Feedback Forum. (And probably our taxes will pay for us being spyied on!)

Name :   Watchman
Location :   re campus/village internet
Date :   (tuesday, 7/25)
Message :   I was told that Time-Warner reps were coming to campus last Friday to discuss new services for campus, and that in VB meeting Tom said George should sit in on the meeting to check out possibilities for wireless in village too. Watch Out!!!

Name :   
Location :   Happyland
Date :   Today
Message :   Wrong link for todays Happyland story. Try again at - http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/07/24/news/latest_news/latestnews02.txt

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main Street
Date :   24 July 06
Message :   Long-ish article on Happyland in todays Citizen... www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/07/24/news/latest_news/latestnews01.txt

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Aurora
Date :   another issue
Message :   Email isnt only internet service; ISP servers can log every site visited. If IP addresses are assigned on-the-fly one wouldnt know who visited which sites, but still....

Name :   Auroran
Location :   right here
Date :   7/21/06
Message :   Good answers to these wireless internet security questions posted in comments at www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/07/20/news/local_news/news03.txt

Name :   Wired Aurora???
Location :   here
Date :   
Message :   I can see it now, Pleasant hires her fawning toady, Jacci F, as admin of the local network, with specific instructions to monitor the emails of known dissenters. Could that really happen?? Is it technologically possible?

Name :   just a Q:
Location :   
Date :   7/21
Message :   If wireless was put in Aurora. And I say if. Would they whoever ran it (the village/or even PR). Could they not look at every email, internet site anyone that uses it has been to? But it would be the reading of emails on the server that would not sit righ

Name :   To the *Getta Life* Guy
Location :   Free Aurora
Date :   July 22, 2006
Message :   The same old mindless irrational rude response, duh! Try this - live your own life & get your nose out of others. Why should our questioning bug you so? Why feel threatened by different opinions? (and stop the fibs: this is not about *home remodeling*)

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Thu
Message :   Did a major project on wireless security in grad sch Network Security course (SU): also an oft-cited (now obs) pathfinder on wireless in libraries. More expert than many, but less than people who work w/it daily.

Name :   Get a LIFE, people!
Location :   Aurora, NY
Date :   Today
Message :   Wow, you folks really need to get a LIFE! Protesting the remodeling of homes? HEY, I HEARD THERES A WAR GOING ON, MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT! Sheesh!

Name :   Georgie Makes News Again
Location :   Citizen
Date :   7-20-06
Message :   Anyone know anything about individual internet security in these *hot spots*? www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/07/20/news/local_news/news03.txt

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Tues
Message :   Looks good now -- thanks for the good work! I can now read the missing paragraphs and no more weird formatting. Thanks!

Name :   regular reader
Location :   aurora
Date :   monday
Message :   wil the forum entries be fixed? theyve been cut off and messed up for 2 days an im hoping to read the missing parts soon

Name :   New store just for us locals
Location :   in old Posies, so we are
Date :   happy now, right?
Message :   Coming in August: regional wine & food *emporium* featuring finger lakes cider cheese food wine, tasting & sales, what a great addition to our community! Called *Bet the Farm,* hows that for cute?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   tudy pressed by pleasantistas to apologize for her float(!) so good of doc to claim misunderstanding and get her off hook especially when shes not well and we all know whats going on here anyway wonder when tommy will ever say sorry for anything

Name :   Second installment of
Location :   Happyland is in
Date :   this mornings mail...
Message :   ...and its getting better and better.

Name :   villager
Location :   aurora
Date :   7/14/06
Message :   How come it is ok for our mayor to make rude remarks to Tudys float riders from the Fargo porch? I was at the Library and hear him!! He needs to apologize to them.

Name :   Stan Zs Float
Location :   in AuroraFest Parade
Date :   last Saturday -
Message :   more offensive to the powers that be than Tudys, either her original plan or improvised replacement, yes? An in - your - face parody of New Aurora, those obnoxious tourists. Any official response to that?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   main street: is she here still???

Name :   Take back the park
Location :   by the Inns dock
Date :   
Message :   If people would just use the area. It will not be lost.

Name :   local
Location :   
Date :   7/11/06
Message :   dont go to the fargo

Name :   
Location :   main st.
Date :   
Message :   So what is the news out there today. What is she up to

Name :   To Townie
Location :   in Aurora
Date :   on 7/8
Message :   Which VB member gave you info? Must be Ken, Janet or Jim, right? Did this VB member say Tom told them this recently & in reference to Aurorafest? Or did they mean the *crackdown* on public statements after Georgies letter last summer? Please answer.

Name :   If by *memo* they meant the directive sent by mayor to all boards last summer saying
Location :   they may not write newspapers about issues coming before their boards
Date :   (after George F. did just that):
Message :   how strange that board members, their relatives & friends suddenly & simultaneuously equated this order w/ Tudys float on Sat morning, and collectively withdrew their promised participation a few hours before parade. More on Forum.

Name :   lets be fair, Right
Location :   The Fargo
Date :   the day, day after
Message :   The Mayor said nice things about the Red Hats. Come on. People from the bank to the PO could hear what he said.

Name :   wells worker
Location :   nearby
Date :   tonite
Message :   seen tom myself protect lazy slugs dangerous inept sexual predators guncrazed troublemakers false qualification liars @ b&g just to avoid conflict/trouble for hiself great mayor you all have

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main Street
Date :   10 July 06
Message :   Not Napoleon, but Edward Bulwer Lytton (of *it was a dark and stormy night* fame) and context gives one pause: *Beneath the rule of men entirely great, The pen is mightier than the sword.* We are not under the rule of the great here...

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   7/10/06
Message :   Gonna be a long 3.5 years. And I know our *reluctant candidates* tried SO hard to get someone, anyone to run against the Regime last March. NO ONE would step forward, so they did at last minute. No offence, but where were you, Soldier, overseas?

Name :   coalition supporter
Location :   aurora
Date :   7/10/06
Message :   Auroran: among prostitues, greed trumps shame -- he has none left. Soldier: remember how Tom became Head of B&G in the first place? That went waaaaay beyond being a *yes* man.

Name :   Missed the parade
Location :   Aurora
Date :   July 10
Message :   Memo? As in physical evidence? Does someone have a copy? Share the text? Or was it a *secret* memo? Let Mayor G. deny that if it exists. How about witnesses to the loud speaker words?

Name :   A Soldier
Location :   Anywhere Required
Date :   Current/ZULU
Message :   Tom Girthansome has been a yes man since Hitler was a Corporal, at Wells, and presently as mayor too. I believe Napoleon said the pen is mightier than the sword! In Aurora it may be the vote that ends this puppet regime.

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main Street
Date :   10 July 06
Message :   Judges stand was @ fargo & Im told Tom said *right people have mouths shut* on loud-speaker! And today he denies issuing prohibition to board members. So - all the people who backed out on Tudy invented Toms memo and its ban on float participation? Right.

Name :   An Auroran
Location :   seriously p*ssed
Date :   7/10/06
Message :   Heres an even better idea. Why dont the citizens of Aurora who are fed up with this crap GO UP TO Tom G. on the street and TELL HIM HOW WE FEEL. Shame works sometimes.

Name :   D.H.
Location :   Hey.. Heres an idea...
Date :   lets all get together 4
Message :   a public burning of Happy Land, denounce our rights as citizens, & wear smiles all the time. Dissent is America you dumb bunny (TG).

Name :   local
Location :   Tudys float
Date :   
Message :   Mayor Gunderson, Did you say The right people have their mouths taped shut now And told your boards not to ride. Is that being impartial?

Name :   
Location :   Aurora(fest)
Date :   7-09-06
Message :   Arrrgh. Citizen sent its tourism reporter and missed the real story. http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2006/07/08/news/local_news/news06.txt

Name :   Cruiser
Location :   NY
Date :   july 8th 2006
Message :   Having worked for the Inn when it first reopened I know for a fact that music from neighbors or boats going past the Inn during the Wedding gets alot of complaints from Brides, you really want to wake up the Managment make sure you have your speakers up o

Name :   another
Location :   local
Date :   today
Message :   Quick! Feed him some more beer and point him towards a reporter or a microphone. Everyone needs to hear that. Disgusting, disgraceful. Ugh. (Can he be impeached? Or do we just have to wait until he explodes?)

Name :   local
Location :   
Date :   aurorafeat
Message :   Corrupt mayor has forked tongue. I thinks he has been bought! He was heard saying the right people have their mouths taped shut now on the fargo porch!!

Name :   Yeah
Location :   For the big tough guy
Date :   the mayor wants to be
Message :   He sure lets himself get pushed around by a couple of women.

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   7/8/06
Message :   They rode float w/ mouths taped shut, but no explanation: hope point got across. Tom may say CPP must appear neutral; but OK that Attilio had *Ban Coalition* sign in yard but not for Chris to ride Tudys float? And maybe corrupt mayor has forked tongue.

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Aurora
Date :   8 Jul 2006
Message :   Hope some have courage to ride a float anyway, just to assert their rights. Tom wasnt worried about rules governing govt websites, now he wants to apply his OWN rules for float riding?!? To heck with that.

Name :   been around
Location :   aurora
Date :   too long
Message :   tom is crotchty good ole boy who just wants to keep doing whatever he pleases legal or not (always has!) without interference or hassle same way he runs b&g @ wells same as mayor

Name :   Watchman
Location :   Free Aurora
Date :   time to protest
Message :   Did all Village Board approve this move by Mayor? Shame on you! Contrary to basic values & violation of constitutional rights! What next: ban satire, prohibit questions, arrest those who disagree? Why do you silently support this insane dictatorship?

Name :   townie
Location :   AuroraFest
Date :   7.8
Message :   It is true. A VB member told me that is what they were told. I guess that is what the village wanted when they voted him back in..! What is Tom afraid of? a little heat.

Name :   Crawford R. Thoburn
Location :   Main Street
Date :   Aurorafest 2006
Message :   Tudy just told me Mayor wrote CPP (&PB/ZBA?) members theyre NOT ALLOWED to be on her float. Supression of free speech is contrary to spirit of Aurorafest; I was a founding committee member, this is a fundamental betrayal of our community. Outrageous!

Name :   Tell Pleasant:
Location :   historic village for sale
Date :   on E-bay for only 5-million.
Message :   Totally perfect for her new Hoffman Institute Quadrinity Process center (see Warren CT under real estate at www.ebay.com). Buy it now, then go away and leave us alone!!!

Name :   Wow Again
Location :   Aurorafest location
Date :   Day Before
Message :   I meant the moving of the location of the Aurorafest to accomodate one (non-Auroran?) couples wedding, rather than serving all the residents of Aurora with an attractive and comfortable location for the Aurorafest. Makes it obvious who counts - and who do

Name :   auroran
Location :   Aurora
Date :   7/7/06
Message :   to Wow: Which one are you talking about?

Name :   Wow
Location :   Aurorafest location
Date :   Friday before
Message :   WHEN will people wake up?!?!??? Someone who can sign his/her name send this one to the paper, would you?

Name :   Village bends over
Location :   for Pleasant
Date :   again.....
Message :   Instead of being held at OUR public lakeside park, OUR Aurorafest is held on a blacktop parking lot. Why? Because Pleasants INN has a wedding. Once again, Auroras residents come in second..and our officials go along.

Name :   townie
Location :   AuroraFest
Date :   Friday morning
Message :   I sure do know what Tudy is doing with her float. But like the rest you will have to wait and see.

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   7/7/06
Message :   Does the Mackenzie-Childs retail face-off continue? Im told Richard&Victoria now have a shop called *Home Again* in their house south of Aurora. Anyone have details? I though Pleasant bought their home as well as their business...

Name :   Friend
Location :   Ithaca
Date :   July 7, 2006
Message :   Anyone know what Tudys doing for her float in this years Aurorafest? (Is it tomorrow?)

Name :   Jake
Location :   
Date :   7/30/06
Message :   The fargo used to be fun. The people of the town make it , you cant ever change that!! We Will take it back.

Name :   Friend of M-C employees
Location :   Aurora
Date :   30 June 2006
Message :   How can one respond to M-C post? M-C employee friends tell me Pleasant has issued ultimatum: Turn profit this year or she will sell; not looking too good. Was a fad that passed its due date anyway.

Name :   webdog
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Interesting bit on MacK-Childs way down this page - http://www.syracuse.com/business/storefront/index.ssf?/mtlogs/syr_retail/archives/2006_06.html#155914

Name :   A question:
Location :   if ugly houses
Date :   should not be allowed
Message :   why arent the Farlows in jail?

Name :   Laura Holland
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Re: our home. Please see Forum.

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Bottomline is, the Holland House is way off-topic and bringing it up now is pointless. *I* hate what was done to the Inn, architecturally. But its too late now. So enough with the Hs new house. Same issue.

Name :   SIA
Location :   Aurora
Date :   6/29/06
Message :   The POINT about the Holland House is that it doesnt MATTER. Its a diversion, taking us off the IMPORTANT issue--P.R. All the Hollands did was build a big house. What P.R. has done is what matters here.

Name :   townie
Location :