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Name :   Taxpayer - re Ledyard Development Plan
Location :   www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1213001745310091.xml&coll=1
Date :   6/14/08
Message :   Article said not much could happen yet, draft plan to be accepted -received- by board, but approval takes months & needs public hearings. Good to object early in process; board knows theyre being watched; no chance of a quiet rubber stamp approval now.

Name :   here
Location :   local
Date :   061308
Message :   DO WE KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THE TOWN BOARD MEETING MONDAY NIGHT, W/ THE LEDYARD/RT90 PROPOSAL?

Name :   Truck traffic regulations drafted
Location :   www.auburnpub.com/articles/2008/06/11/local_news/news02.txt
Date :   Thursday, June 12, 2008
Message :   

Name :   jeeez
Location :   Aurora Inn
Date :   6/10/08
Message :   Oh so he did work at the Inn then

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   That crap guy got fired from the Inn a long time ago. Get your info right.

Name :   Syracuse Post-Standard
Location :   www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1213001745310091.xml&coll=1
Date :   June 9
Message :   Plans for Cayuga town raises eyebrows: Some disagree with commercial zone at main intersection in Ledyard.

Name :   Even Moore
Location :   Aurora
Date :   6/8/08
Message :   Someone else brought that piece of crap here way long before Pleasant came around. Lets give credit where credit is due.

Name :   Arsonist Story
Location :   www.auburnpub.com/articles/2008/06/04/local_news/news03.txt
Date :   www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1212569888301410.xml&coll=1
Message :   Gee i am so glad pleasant created a few - damn few - jobs and made sure she brought in people like this to fill them instead of hiring locals from the community she tried her best to destroy.

Name :   House on Poplar Ridge
Location :   Burned by Chef at Inn
Date :   Last Friday
Message :   Beat his girlfriend; after she left, set fire to house, w/her pet cat inside, sat on lawnchair watching. Chad E. Towsley (sp?) has been arrested and charged.

Name :   search his name on this page:
Location :   www.co.cayuga.ny.us/realproperty/2008TentRolls/Ledyard.txt
Date :   today
Message :   heary owns land at 1127 nys rte 90 plus four parcels at 1153, 1171, 1203 and 1208 ledyard rd. (and wilcox general store and gas on the corner of rte 34b & ledyard rd is 2.5 miles from proposed new commercial area.)

Name :   Auroran reading 6/7/08 Citizen
Location :   www.auburnpub.com/articles/2008/06/07/latest_news/latestnews02.txt
Date :   Town Supervisor says farmers wont sell land to developers?
Message :   Watch out, Bill Heary is on Town Council and owns land along Ledyard Rd just where they want to put new commercial zone - he could develop it himself! (Remember his failed attempt years ago to put in hotel, golf course , marina etc in Levanna?)

Name :   Dazed
Location :   and
Date :   Confused
Message :   Where can you get gas and convenient store stuff three miles from Aurora? What exactly is thought to be going on at Mac-ch? Who burned down the house on Poplar Ridge?

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   6/5/08
Message :   I remember when all this started explaining to a lawyer of my acquaintance about the several different LLCs Rowland had set up here, and he said - No one needs that many corporations, not unless they are trying to hide something.

Name :   Citzen Legals
Location :   page C6
Date :   June 4, 2008
Message :   Notice of Formation of another corp on 4/21 located at Mac-Childs plant with process address given as 767 5th Ave in NYC. This one is MC NYC LLC- cute. Also creation of MacKenzie-Childs Real Estate, with same addresses, also announced again in this paper.

Name :   Re development areas at Ledyard, Levanna, and Mac-Childs
Location :   www.aurorany.org/forum2.html
Date :   The proposal includes using our tax money
Message :   to pay for costly Environmental Impact Studies for the proposed projects, instead of having developer foot the bill in the application process as is the norm. Somebody is trying to get a very sweet deal at our expense. Watch out!

Name :   About Ledyard plan
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   to quote: ...needed community businesses such as a gas station/convenience store and pharmacy?? Sez who?? There is a conv. store and gas 3 miles away!! this is nuts. WHO IS BEHIND IT?

Name :   Lets Play
Location :   a game
Date :   this week!
Message :   Ill start! More Pleasant b4 Pleasant Ill start: Mrs. Reynolds Store Ice cream cones were 50 cents. No chintz in sight. The candy was fresher. You could buy something for your 3-year-old for Mrs. Reynolds was really nice.

Name :   Shit Happens
Location :   in small towns
Date :   all the time
Message :   this one screams insurance scam. really, think about it.

Name :   Jeez, Louise!
Location :   http://aurorany.org/Flyer.jpg
Date :   6/2/08
Message :   Does anyone else find it odd that the flyer tries to scare us (our village reputation and safety are at stake!) and asks for rumors, street talk, and overheard conversations to be reported? BTW, these are quotes. (Hey, will this be reported?)

Name :   oh, I see now
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   why am I not surprised to hear about the sleezy nature of GFs so called job? What a slimy con man he is, on many levels.

Name :   strange stuff
Location :   aurora
Date :   6/2
Message :   try some of this http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=3245

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   6.2.07
Message :   people at top of pyramid get rich. this one founded by family friend from TX, nice for GF. the few (very inferior) policies sold go to low income union workers - who arent always aware coverage lessens as they age. all legal but stinky.

Name :   American Income Life,
Location :   a NYS subsidiary of National Income Life.
Date :   Google those companies with words like scam or fraud
Message :   and see what you get. A pyramid scheme targets those desperate for work (make big cash fast!) who then pay enormous sums for worthless training. Only way they can get out of debt to the company is to bring in other trainees.

Name :   Watchman - still here
Location :   www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/121231063035220.xml&coll=1&thispage=1
Date :   June 1
Message :   GF a pathetic joke and TG delusional. (PTR had to pull out when her PO project finally faced state/federal reviews that would hold her responsible for gutting historic buildings.) Someone on VB call theUSPS, and get moving! The lease expires in 9 months.

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   does anyone know, exactly WHAT is George Farentholds occupation?

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   http://www.aurorany.org/forum2.html
Date :   The First of June
Message :   Changing subject: Ledyard Town Board meeting, 7:30 Mon 6/9, important land-use & development issues raised by draft Comprehensive Plan up for discussion. More info now on FeedBack Forum, link above. Write the Board or attend the meeting!

Name :   Heard about
Location :   Lyon House
Date :   putting in geothermal
Message :   Sounds like the pipes will go through village right of way. Can anyone do that?

Name :   Lacy
Location :   here
Date :   
Message :   dont know who did it or why, but I do know that crimes like what was done to the Porshce didnt happen until Pleasant came to town. A car got tires slashed last yr too

Name :   wake up
Location :   people
Date :   
Message :   This happened in your village. Whether he/she was drunk or on one side or the other, there is someone capable of this kind of violence. And its getting worse. What is next? Come forward with what you know. Before it goes to the next level and someone gets

Name :   Even Moore
Location :   Aurora
Date :   5.29.08
Message :   Lets get away for a weekend upstate, no one will know. Maybe just a good old affair gone bad, not everything is PTR related.

Name :   Information sought in car vandalism in Aurora
Location :   www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1212051520111970.xml&coll=1
Date :   5.29.08
Message :   and it is reported in todays post-standard. both articles avoid mentioning the inn.

Name :   Todays Auburn Citizen, 5/28
Location :   Page A-3 (excerpts below)
Date :   Porsche vandalized in Aurora Sunday
Message :   Around 11:45 pm Sunday, yellow 2001 Porche under a gray cover, severely damaged, struck several times with a blunt object, suspect last seen walking on Cherry Ave (?!), witnesses or anyone with info- call Cayuga Co Sheriff detectives at 253-1610.

Name :   Wackos!
Location :   Fargo
Date :   Sunday
Message :   The car was totaly covered in a car sack. Who would know it was a porche or a rich car? It was disguised.

Name :   Set up the Inn?
Location :   With an 80000 dollar
Date :   car? Ha ha?
Message :   Maybe it was a personal vendetta - who owned the car? Insurance money? Or it could have been someone pissed because it was in a no parking zone.

Name :   Karin W
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Wed 28 May 2008
Message :   Agent provacateur? Dont know anyone opposing influence of PTR in Aurora who would do that, but there are some on the other side just wacky enough; my car & Jays both vandalized.

Name :   main st guy
Location :   aurora streets
Date :   5/27/08
Message :   Great the next thing GF will want is having a policeman in the village.

Name :   Wow
Location :   80,000 porsche destroyed
Date :   5/26/08
Message :   in downtown Aurora. Someone took a bat or tire iron to it on Sun night. Aurora Inn told owner it was safe to park the car on the street. Owner had owned Porsche all of 2 weeks.

Name :   Watchman
Location :   still here
Date :   May 25
Message :   When the board of the Aurora Foundation LLC was 1st established, it was reported in Post-Standard that it had 5 members, 3 from Rowland Foundation and 2 from college = Lisa, George Edwards, Rowland, Waller, and one other.

Name :   Aurora Foundation LLC
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   may belong to Wells but the contact person is Katy Waller. Who makes up the board of the LLC?

Name :   Ready to retch
Name :   http://blog.syracuse.com/cammuso/2008/05/pleasant_goodbyes.html
Location :   Duh, Hannah!
Date :   The cartoon is perfect:
Message :   a normal person forced to wear dolly clothes and sit at a pinky dinky toy table for a make-believe tea, with vacuous empty-eyed blond and idiot- face grinning bear (RZ & JF?) thrilled with PTRs la-la land. Back to reality ladies, the fantasy is over!
Location :   Skaneateles
Date :   Did you SEE that video?
Message :   its slimy parasites like George Farenthold that make people like Chuck Schumer regret their choice of public service. what a pathetic wanna-be. makes my skin crawl

Name :   tea part
Location :   rochester
Date :   5/23/08
Message :   http://www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1211187440321300.xml&coll=1 Anyone notice that the aurora in this cartoon is a big baby...shall I say Cry baby for whining so much about the generosity of Pleasant...wake up and thank her

Name :   Yes the Foundation is still active.
Location :   PTR signed over everything to
Date :   the Aurora Foundation when she
Message :   decided to leave the Village. The Foundation is now under the control of Wells College. Wells owns a lot in the village---Dorie, The Inn, Fargo etc etc.

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main Street
Date :   22 May 2008
Message :   The NYS Dept. of State Division of Corporations web site (updated weekly) still lists the Aurora Foundation LLC as an active corporation.

Name :   Wondering
Location :   in Ledyard
Date :   Current
Message :   Is the Aurora Foundation LLC still in existence?

Name :   
Location :   http://blog.syracuse.com/cammuso/2008/05/pleasant_goodbyes.html
Date :   5/21/08
Message :   Is the tea-party FINALLY over?

Name :   Resident
Location :   right here
Date :   5-21-08
Message :   re: Post-Stndrd. article: hey Arthur: the only thing that was deteriorating in Aurora before Pleasant took over was your a&&#@le.

Name :   My guess
Location :   Rt 90 and Ledyard Rd.
Date :   5/19
Message :   McK - Childs owned land there. Sounds like that is where and why the conv. store got going in that area.

Name :   Huh?
Location :   http://www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/1211187440321300.xml&coll=1
Date :   5-19-08
Message :   The Loooooong Goodbye! The P-S gave front page coverage to Rowlands departure already -- over two years ago.

Name :   why the shell game?
Location :   http://appsext8.dos.state.ny.us/corp_public/corpsearch.entity_search_entry
Date :   5.19.08
Message :   1-million was not for business but for real estate transfer of 6 lots between 2 corporations established by the new owners. when did the farm parcels get subdivided? are they all zoned commercial? why separate land ownership from manufacturing company?

Name :   Even Moore
Location :   Aurora
Date :   5.18.08
Message :   Is it they only paid 1M? Pleasant paid a little over 5M and she thought that was a deal.

Name :   MACKENZIE-CHILDS REAL ESTATE LLC
Location :   767 5th Ave, 46th Floor, NYC 10153
Date :   Created by Dept. of State: April 21, 2008
Message :   In today’s paper: MacKenzie-Childs, Ltd., 3260 Route 90, Aurora, to MacKenzie-Childs Real Estate LLC, same address, six parcels at 3260 Route 90N. 1Million. Assessment 3,772,100 dollars.

Name :   todays property transfers
Location :   McK - Childs Real Estate LLC?
Date :   1,000,000 dollar transfer
Message :   can anyone working there tell people here what this Real Estate LLC wants to do, and who is behind it?

Name :   In the Wall Street Journal, PTR said
Location :   she was NOT leaving Aurora because of
Date :   the local criticism and dispute over her projects.
Message :   But in her Farewell Address to Mac-Childs, she said strongly she IS sellling & leaving because of opposition to her projects. (And makes clear that she had planned much more which she now claims to abandon for good. YEAH!! Ding-dong, is the witch dead?)

Name :   Resident outside town
Location :   x marks the spot
Date :   Plesant now caught in print
Message :   ..in a lie..her 2 statements directly contradict each other. One must be false. Why were so many people unable to see what kind of person she is?

Name :   That vile woman
Location :   must be an habitual liar
Date :   
Message :   look at all the lies she told the people in Aurora, about her being accessible, about locals being able to rent space for business,just to name a few.

Name :   PTR
Location :   is lying
Date :   to her employees at Mc-Cheese
Message :   or to the WSJ. Compare her farewell speech at McC to the WSJ piece. She is a lying sack of s#!t. How does she live with herself?

Name :   American Girl Founder Puts Houses on Sale
Location :   http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121088097209096285.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Date :   Wall Street Journal, 16 May 2008
Message :   Rowland...spent 6 years and millions of dollars restoring much of Aurora...townspeople criticized the renovations as too extensive. +I just simply saved a town that was crumbling+ Rowland says now...She says the dispute isnt her reason for leaving town.

Name :   Ms Z, from the past
Location :   away from NY state
Date :   George on video
Message :   I knew George way back when he had a full head of hair. It is odd and strange to see him bald, as he is now. He used to really charm the college girls.

Name :   Hey Johanna
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Dick and Janet Besse were at it 15 years ago. Give them their due honor.

Name :   Johanna
Location :   Aurora
Date :   Do you ever have anything
Message :   good to say about anyone who is NOT your bosom buddy? Life is too short give people the honor they due. GF has worked hard to stop truckers from driving through Aurora. You cannot appreciate that until you have nearly been run over right in front of the C

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   5/13/08
Message :   Being fair, GF did put time in on this project over last 2 years (and made sure everyone knew it), but others have been grinding away at work on it for 20 years! They deserve spotlight, not him. SO, WHAT HAPPENED AT TOWN BOARD MEETING?

Name :   Slime in action!
Location :   http://www.auburnpub.com/local_videos/
Date :   See georgie:
Message :   sneak in behind governor after speeches begin & position himself uninvited in speakers line-up, grab at schummer & paterson repeatedly, shout chat-back to draw attention to himself, then wangle microphone for himself after *last” speaker finishes.

Name :   Call them
Location :   and find out
Date :   as soon as possible.
Message :   Ledyard Town Supervisor: Mark Jordan. Town Council: William Heary, Paul Hilliard, John Binns, Jim Frisch. Ledyard Planning Board: Chairman Ronald Buxenbaum, Paul Simkin, Penney Cook, Claire Morehouse, Steve Kubarek.

Name :   dizzy from the changes
Location :   Ledyard
Date :   
Message :   Is McK-Childs already zoned commercial? the entire premises? A Realty Corp? Who is behind this? Who owns it? who on the Ledyard board wants this?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   5.13.08
Message :   as said before, new mac-childs owners will sell the assets - in this case land - and kill the company. but its an interesting coincidence how the ledyard town boards proposal just now manages to raise the value of that land by making it commercial.

Name :   KAH
Location :   Main Street
Date :   12 May 08
Message :   Im told Legal Notices last week in Citizen announced creation of new corporation: MacKenzie-Childs Realty. Conveniently, Ledyard Board plans to make all MacK-Childs Ltd farmland a new commercial zone, along with the one proposed for Ledyard Rd / Rte 90.

Name :   Hmmm.
Location :   www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-12-2008/0004811366&EDATE=
Date :   more on mac&cheese
Message :   

Name :   Watchman
Location :   still here
Date :   May 12
Message :   Local convenience, food, gas stores struggle in King Ferry, Union Springs, Genoa, and in our Township with Wilcox General Store. Build more and existing ones will fail altogether. Whats the point in that? Except the developer makes money off of us.

Name :   We need something to
Location :   put life into this village and
Date :   hopefully compete with the high prices
Message :   of the businesses around---The Inn, Dories, Pizza Pl. Pumpkin Hill, Jane Morgans, The Village Market etc. It is hard to shop at thes places on my salary.

Name :   Concerned
Location :   Local
Date :   05/12/08
Message :   No Not at shoe co, on corner of 90 and Ledyard rd, No we dont need any bars.or strip mall for that matter. meeting at 7:30 2nite

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   who is behind rt 90 proposal? bars belong in towns not cornfields.

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   Aurora
Date :   5/11/08
Message :   Yes. And also a Town of Ledyard Planning Board Meeting at 7:30 on Wed., May 14th where the same issue is probably up for discussion. Has the proposal been made public? Are printed plans available at the libraries?

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   5.11.08
Message :   seems like there may be a ledyard town board meeting tomorrow, monday 12th, at 7:30 in the bldg on popular ridge road, at which info about the proposed new commercial zone will be presented to the public..., yes?

Name :   conv,store,pharmacy.
Location :   south of Aurora
Date :   5/10/08
Message :   Maybe they will put a up good bar there and keep the Freaking 4-17 year olds out of it. where will it be Aurora shoe co?

Name :   Concerned
Location :   local
Date :   05/09/08
Message :   Im not sure, the letter showed the propasal, they want to change the zoning i believe

Name :   Concerned
Location :   local
Date :   05/09/08
Message :   On the corner of 90 and Ledyard rd..Across from Otiss..planning conv,store,pharmacy..etc..not happy about this

Name :   Dont Get It
Location :   
Date :   2008
Message :   After a year Twin Lakes is all she could come up with? There is no there there. There is no money there. Whats going on?

Name :   TO: Concerned
Location :   Aurora in Ledyard
Date :   today
Message :   Whats going on? Is this a zoning change or has a project been proposed? Will there be a hearing? (And to whoever - thnx for the SEC filing from Twin Lakes Inc. Makes ya wonder where they got the cash to buy Mac-Childs.)

Name :   Concerned
Location :   local
Date :   05/08/08
Message :   Thanks, what about the Zoning board for the town.I really dont want a conv.store across from my home!!!

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   http://sec.edgar-online.com/2006/05/10/0000930413-06-003705/Section12.asp

Name :   More info on Mac-Childs Sale
Location :   www.syracuse.com/articles/cayuga/index.ssf?/base/news-12/121023709983390.xml&coll=1
Date :   From Taxpayer
Message :   My last post wasnt a wish but a warning from 1st hand hurt. Its how those capital firms often operate. They know 0 about product & and if they cant turn quick buck they strip assests & leave company for dead. I hope Im wrong here & do wish you luck.

Name :   4 Taxpayer
Location :   north of aurora
Date :   5/7/08
Message :   On this one lets just watch and see what happens. I need my job. And you could be off the mark with this.

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/05/mackenziechilds_sold_to_roches.html
Date :   5/7/08
Message :   My experience of such investment firms: they buy up ailing companies & strip them of their assets & then shut them down. Sorry if it wasnt bought by someone actually interested in producing the product (even tho I think it ugly & overpriced).

Name :   
Location :   
Date :   5.6.08
Message :   jackie farlow aka gacci got paid hundreds to set up pathetic self-promoting village web site and last i heard she collects 50 bucks an hour for the updates

Name :   Huh?
Location :   
Date :   
Message :   Pleasant promo? Its a Gacci promo! About everything links to her sight! Does she get paid? Or are the links her payment?

Name :   Taxpayer
Location :   http://www.co.cayuga.ny.us/ledyard/index.html
Date :   5/6/08
Message :   Check this site. Not only does it tell you who is on Town of Ledyard boards, it also provides minutes, town laws, full zoning code, etc. Puts to shame the pleasant promo mess masquerading as our Village of Aurora website.

Name :   CONCERNED
Location :   LOCAL
Date :   05/06/08
Message :   Could someone please tell me who is on Ledyard town board? concerned on zoning proposal on rt 90